Diet And Diabetes

[ironjustice]

Vegetarian and vegan diets in type 2 diabetes management
Authors: Barnard, Neal D; Katcher, Heather I1; Jenkins, David JA2;
Cohen, Joshua3; Turner-McGrievy, Gabrielle4
Nutrition Reviews, Volume 67, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 255-263(9)

Abstract:

Vegetarian and vegan diets offer significant benefits for diabetes
management.
In observational studies, individuals following vegetarian diets are
about half as
likely to develop diabetes, compared with non-vegetarians.
In clinical trials in individuals with type 2 diabetes, low-fat vegan
diets improve
glycemic control to a greater extent than conventional diabetes
diets.
Although this effect is primarily attributable to greater weight loss,
evidence
also suggests that reduced intake of saturated fats and high-glycemic-
index
foods, increased intake of dietary fiber and vegetable protein,
reduced
intramyocellular lipid concentrations, and decreased iron stores
mediate the
influence of plant-based diets on glycemia.
Vegetarian and vegan diets also improve plasma lipid concentrations
and have
been shown to reverse atherosclerosis progression.
In clinical studies, the reported acceptability of vegetarian and
vegan diets is
comparable to other therapeutic regimens.
The presently available literature indicates that vegetarian and vegan
diets
present potential advantages for the management of type 2 diabetes.

Keywords: diabetes; diet; plant-based; vegan; vegetarian

Document Type: Special article

DOI: 10.1111/j.1753-4887.2009.00198.x

Affiliations: 1: Washington Center for Clinical Research, Washington,
DC, USA. 2: Department of Nutritional Sciences, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Toronto, and Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor
Modification Center, St. Michael's Hospital, Toronto, Canada. 3:
Department of Medicine, George Washington University School of
Medicine, Washington, DC, USA. 4: Department of Nutrition, School of
Public Health, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina, USA.


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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[v***@eater.com]

In india with the world's highest rate of diabetes meat consumption is
low. Also more of those who do consume some meat live in the northern
parts. The north has less diabetes then the south where plant diets are
the highest.

Can you explain please?

[ironjustice]

On Apr 23, 12:02 pm, ***@eater.com wrote: snip <<

Vegetarian and vegan diets in type 2 diabetes management
Authors: Barnard, Neal D; Katcher, Heather I1; Jenkins, David JA2;
Cohen, Joshua3; Turner-McGrievy, Gabrielle4
Nutrition Reviews, Volume 67, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 255-263(9)

Abstract:


Vegetarian and vegan diets offer significant benefits for diabetes
management.
In observational studies, individuals following vegetarian diets are
about half as
likely to develop diabetes, compared with non-vegetarians.
In clinical trials in individuals with type 2 diabetes, low-fat vegan
diets improve
glycemic control to a greater extent than conventional diabetes
diets.
Although this effect is primarily attributable to greater weight
loss,
evidence
also suggests that reduced intake of saturated fats and high-
glycemic-
index
foods, increased intake of dietary fiber and vegetable protein,
reduced
intramyocellular lipid concentrations, and decreased iron stores
mediate the
influence of plant-based diets on glycemia.
Vegetarian and vegan diets also improve plasma lipid concentrations
and have
been shown to reverse atherosclerosis progression.
In clinical studies, the reported acceptability of vegetarian and
vegan diets is
comparable to other therapeutic regimens.
The presently available literature indicates that vegetarian and
vegan
diets
present potential advantages for the management of type 2 diabetes.


Keywords: diabetes; diet; plant-based; vegan; vegetarian


Document Type: Special article


DOI: 10.1111/j.1753-4887.2009.00198.x


Affiliations: 1: Washington Center for Clinical Research, Washington,
DC, USA. 2: Department of Nutritional Sciences, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Toronto, and Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor
Modification Center, St. Michael's Hospital, Toronto, Canada. 3:
Department of Medicine, George Washington University School of
Medicine, Washington, DC, USA. 4: Department of Nutrition, School of
Public Health, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina, USA.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[v***@eater.com]

I'm sorry, reposting does not answer the india question.

Would you pleas do so?

Can we assume failure to do so is admission of inability to do so and
the failure of the point of the post?

You complain when others don't address your post. What does it mean
when you ignore valid claims against your posts and you remain silent?

[ironjustice]

On Apr 23, 12:43 pm, ***@eater.com wrote: snip <<

Don't understand the article .. murray .. ?

THAT'S because you are stupid ..

No other explanation is there .. btch ..

Vegetarian and vegan diets in type 2 diabetes management
Authors: Barnard, Neal D; Katcher, Heather I1; Jenkins, David JA2;
Cohen, Joshua3; Turner-McGrievy, Gabrielle4
Nutrition Reviews, Volume 67, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 255-263(9)

Abstract:

Vegetarian and vegan diets offer significant benefits for diabetes
management.
In observational studies, individuals following vegetarian diets are
about half as likely to develop diabetes, compared with
non-vegetarians.
In clinical trials in individuals with type 2 diabetes, low-fat vegan
diets improve glycemic control to a greater extent than conventional
diabetes diets.
Although this effect is primarily attributable to greater weight
loss, evidence also suggests that reduced intake of saturated fats
and high- glycemic- index foods, increased intake of dietary fiber
and
vegetable protein, reduced intramyocellular lipid concentrations, and
decreased iron stores mediate the influence of plant-based diets on
glycemia.
Vegetarian and vegan diets also improve plasma lipid concentrations
and have been shown to reverse atherosclerosis progression.
In clinical studies, the reported acceptability of vegetarian and
vegan diets is comparable to other therapeutic regimens.
The presently available literature indicates that vegetarian and
vegan diets present potential advantages for the management of
type 2 diabetes.

Keywords: diabetes; diet; plant-based; vegan; vegetarian

Document Type: Special article


DOI: 10.1111/j.1753-4887.2009.00198.x


Affiliations: 1: Washington Center for Clinical Research, Washington,
DC, USA. 2: Department of Nutritional Sciences, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Toronto, and Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor
Modification Center, St. Michael's Hospital, Toronto, Canada. 3:
Department of Medicine, George Washington University School of
Medicine, Washington, DC, USA. 4: Department of Nutrition, School of
Public Health, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina, USA.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[v***@eater.com]

In india with the world's highest rate of diabetes meat consumption is
low. Also more of those who do consume some meat live in the northern
parts. The north has less diabetes then the south where plant diets are
the highest.

Can you explain please?

It seems you can not explain, pity.

[ironjustice]

On Apr 23, 5:02 pm, ***@eater.com wrote:snip <<

Don't you understand .. murray .. ?

I called you a little btch ..

Murray the little dioxin .. btch ..

Now btch .. fkff ..

Vegetarian and vegan diets in type 2 diabetes management
Authors: Barnard, Neal D; Katcher, Heather I1; Jenkins, David JA2;
Cohen, Joshua3; Turner-McGrievy, Gabrielle4
Nutrition Reviews, Volume 67, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 255-263(9)


Abstract:


Vegetarian and vegan diets offer significant benefits for diabetes
management.
In observational studies, individuals following vegetarian diets are
about half as likely to develop diabetes, compared with
non-vegetarians.
In clinical trials in individuals with type 2 diabetes, low-fat vegan
diets improve glycemic control to a greater extent than conventional
diabetes diets.
Although this effect is primarily attributable to greater weight
loss, evidence also suggests that reduced intake of saturated fats
and high- glycemic- index foods, increased intake of dietary fiber
and
vegetable protein, reduced intramyocellular lipid concentrations, and
decreased iron stores mediate the influence of plant-based diets on
glycemia.
Vegetarian and vegan diets also improve plasma lipid concentrations
and have been shown to reverse atherosclerosis progression.
In clinical studies, the reported acceptability of vegetarian and
vegan diets is comparable to other therapeutic regimens.
The presently available literature indicates that vegetarian and
vegan diets present potential advantages for the management of
type 2 diabetes.


Keywords: diabetes; diet; plant-based; vegan; vegetarian


Document Type: Special article


DOI: 10.1111/j.1753-4887.2009.00198.x


Affiliations: 1: Washington Center for Clinical Research, Washington,
DC, USA. 2: Department of Nutritional Sciences, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Toronto, and Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor
Modification Center, St. Michael's Hospital, Toronto, Canada. 3:
Department of Medicine, George Washington University School of
Medicine, Washington, DC, USA. 4: Department of Nutrition, School of
Public Health, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina, USA.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[v***@eater.com]

In india with the world's highest rate of diabetes meat consumption is
low. Also more of those who do consume some meat live in the northern
parts. The north has less diabetes then the south where plant diets are
the highest.

Can you explain please?

It seems you can not explain, pity.

Who is murray, does he have the answer?

[ironjustice]

On Apr 24, 7:37 am, ***@eater.com wrote:snip <<

Murray .. I called you a little btch ..

Now btch .. fkff ..

Vegetarian and vegan diets in type 2 diabetes management
Authors: Barnard, Neal D; Katcher, Heather I1; Jenkins, David JA2;
Cohen, Joshua3; Turner-McGrievy, Gabrielle4
Nutrition Reviews, Volume 67, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 255-263(9)


Abstract:


Vegetarian and vegan diets offer significant benefits for diabetes
management.
In observational studies, individuals following vegetarian diets are
about half as likely to develop diabetes, compared with
non-vegetarians.
In clinical trials in individuals with type 2 diabetes, low-fat vegan
diets improve glycemic control to a greater extent than conventional
diabetes diets.
Although this effect is primarily attributable to greater weight
loss, evidence also suggests that reduced intake of saturated fats
and high- glycemic- index foods, increased intake of dietary fiber
and
vegetable protein, reduced intramyocellular lipid concentrations, and
decreased iron stores mediate the influence of plant-based diets on
glycemia.
Vegetarian and vegan diets also improve plasma lipid concentrations
and have been shown to reverse atherosclerosis progression.
In clinical studies, the reported acceptability of vegetarian and
vegan diets is comparable to other therapeutic regimens.
The presently available literature indicates that vegetarian and
vegan diets present potential advantages for the management of
type 2 diabetes.


Keywords: diabetes; diet; plant-based; vegan; vegetarian


Document Type: Special article


DOI: 10.1111/j.1753-4887.2009.00198.x


Affiliations: 1: Washington Center for Clinical Research, Washington,
DC, USA. 2: Department of Nutritional Sciences, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Toronto, and Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor
Modification Center, St. Michael's Hospital, Toronto, Canada. 3:
Department of Medicine, George Washington University School of
Medicine, Washington, DC, USA. 4: Department of Nutrition, School of
Public Health, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina, USA.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[v***@eater.com]

Ah, by your silence you expose yourself as being unable to answer the
question. Now where can I find murray to get a real answer?

In india with the world's highest rate of diabetes meat consumption is
low. Also more of those who do consume some meat live in the northern
parts. The north has less diabetes then the south where plant diets are
the highest.

Can you explain please?

It seems you can not explain, pity.

Who is murray, does he have the answer?

[ironjustice]

On Apr 24, 3:56 pm, ***@eater.com wrote:snip <<

Murray .. I called you a little btch ..


Now btch .. fkff ..


Vegetarian and vegan diets in type 2 diabetes management
Authors: Barnard, Neal D; Katcher, Heather I1; Jenkins, David JA2;
Cohen, Joshua3; Turner-McGrievy, Gabrielle4
Nutrition Reviews, Volume 67, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 255-263(9)


Abstract:


Vegetarian and vegan diets offer significant benefits for diabetes
management.
In observational studies, individuals following vegetarian diets are
about half as likely to develop diabetes, compared with
non-vegetarians.
In clinical trials in individuals with type 2 diabetes, low-fat vegan
diets improve glycemic control to a greater extent than conventional
diabetes diets.
Although this effect is primarily attributable to greater weight
loss, evidence also suggests that reduced intake of saturated fats
and high- glycemic- index foods, increased intake of dietary fiber
and
vegetable protein, reduced intramyocellular lipid concentrations, and
decreased iron stores mediate the influence of plant-based diets on
glycemia.
Vegetarian and vegan diets also improve plasma lipid concentrations
and have been shown to reverse atherosclerosis progression.
In clinical studies, the reported acceptability of vegetarian and
vegan diets is comparable to other therapeutic regimens.
The presently available literature indicates that vegetarian and
vegan diets present potential advantages for the management of
type 2 diabetes.


Keywords: diabetes; diet; plant-based; vegan; vegetarian


Document Type: Special article


DOI: 10.1111/j.1753-4887.2009.00198.x


Affiliations: 1: Washington Center for Clinical Research, Washington,
DC, USA. 2: Department of Nutritional Sciences, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Toronto, and Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor
Modification Center, St. Michael's Hospital, Toronto, Canada. 3:
Department of Medicine, George Washington University School of
Medicine, Washington, DC, USA. 4: Department of Nutrition, School of
Public Health, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina, USA.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[v***@eater.com]

"Murray .. I called you a little btch .."

Interesting your obsession with this murray person, too much iron?

Ah, by your silence you expose yourself as being unable to answer the
question. Now where can I find murray to get a real answer?

In india with the world's highest rate of diabetes meat consumption is
low. Also more of those who do consume some meat live in the northern
parts. The north has less diabetes then the south where plant diets are
the highest.

Can you explain please?

It seems you can not explain, pity.

Who is murray, does he have the answer?

[Reasonable]

Post by v***@eater.com
"Murray .. I called you a little btch .."
Interesting your obsession with this murray person, too much iron?
Ah, by your silence you expose yourself as being unable to answer the
question. Now where can I find murray to get a real answer?
In india with the world's highest rate of diabetes meat consumption is
low. Also more of those who do consume some meat live in the northern
parts. The north has less diabetes then the south where plant diets are
the highest.
Can you explain please?
It seems you can not explain, pity.
Who is murray, does he have the answer?

The answer to your legitimate question is that Diabetes has nothing to
do with the eating of meat. Diabetes is an interplay between the
Insulin effect versus the Cortisol effect on your Insulin Receptors.
Fasting in the mornings increases the cortisol effect (reduce
receptors therefore diabetogenic) while heavy breakfast increases the
Insulin effect (increase receptors therefore protective) But if you
have a heavy breakfast everyday you will not be able to remove old
under performing receptors hence heavy breakfast every day could
result also into Diabetes. What you need is an optimal ratio between
fasting and breakfast. Indians has a poor breakfast fasting ratio.
For more information consult
www.sabbaticaldiet.com

Owen

[ironjustice]

On Apr 25, 8:38 am, Reasonable <***@gmail.com> wrote:Diabetes
has nothing to
do with the eating of meat
<<

Too Much Iron Linked to Diabetes Risk

02/14/2007

Most realize that diet plays a large role in one's risk of getting
type 2 diabetes, but beyond sugar intake and obesity, it turns out
that eating too much iron may put some at a higher risk for this
disease.
In a study, published in Diabetes Care, researchers have found that
women who eat too much of one particular type of iron, heme iron, had
as high as a 28 percent increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

"Heme iron intake was positively associated with the risk of diabetes
independent of other risk factors for diabetes," writes Dr. Swapnil
Rajpathak, lead study author from the department of nutrition at the
Harvard School of Public Health.

For the study, Dr. Rajpathak and colleagues followed over 85,000
middle-aged women over the course of 20 years. During that time, over
4,500 of the women developed type 2 diabetes. After ruling out other
dietary factors that could have impacted diabetes risk, the
researchers determined that heme iron, the type of iron found in
animal products, was most closely linked to increased diabetes risk.

Since animal products have already been linked to heart disease,
Rajpathak, suggests that his findings offer yet another reason to
steer clear of a double serving of steak.

However, while red meat contains a relatively large amount of heme
iron, fish chicken and pork also contains some amount of this mineral.
Therefore, eating too much of any type of meat may increase the risk
of diabetes.

While the exact mechanism is not understood, Rajpathak suggests that
iron's role in the body is the cause of this link. Iron is involved in
many of the body's processes that create excess reactive oxygen. Too
much oxygen slowly damages the body, including the body's ability to
respond to insulin, one of the causes of type 2 diabetes.

Other forms of iron, such as that derived from plant products, are
less readily absorbed by the body, he explains, therefore they do not
seem to impact diabetes risk.
---------------

Vegetarian and vegan diets in type 2 diabetes management
Authors: Barnard, Neal D; Katcher, Heather I1; Jenkins, David JA2;
Cohen, Joshua3; Turner-McGrievy, Gabrielle4
Nutrition Reviews, Volume 67, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 255-263(9)


Abstract:


Vegetarian and vegan diets offer significant benefits for diabetes
management.
In observational studies, individuals following vegetarian diets are
about half as
likely to develop diabetes, compared with non-vegetarians.
In clinical trials in individuals with type 2 diabetes, low-fat vegan
diets improve
glycemic control to a greater extent than conventional diabetes
diets.
Although this effect is primarily attributable to greater weight
loss,
evidence
also suggests that reduced intake of saturated fats and high-
glycemic-
index
foods, increased intake of dietary fiber and vegetable protein,
reduced
intramyocellular lipid concentrations, and decreased iron stores
mediate the
influence of plant-based diets on glycemia.
Vegetarian and vegan diets also improve plasma lipid concentrations
and have
been shown to reverse atherosclerosis progression.
In clinical studies, the reported acceptability of vegetarian and
vegan diets is
comparable to other therapeutic regimens.
The presently available literature indicates that vegetarian and
vegan
diets
present potential advantages for the management of type 2 diabetes.


Keywords: diabetes; diet; plant-based; vegan; vegetarian


Document Type: Special article


DOI: 10.1111/j.1753-4887.2009.00198.x


Affiliations: 1: Washington Center for Clinical Research, Washington,
DC, USA. 2: Department of Nutritional Sciences, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Toronto, and Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor
Modification Center, St. Michael's Hospital, Toronto, Canada. 3:
Department of Medicine, George Washington University School of
Medicine, Washington, DC, USA. 4: Department of Nutrition, School of
Public Health, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina, USA.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[terryc]

Post by v***@eater.com
In india with the world's highest rate of diabetes meat consumption is
low. Also more of those who do consume some meat live in the northern
parts. The north has less diabetes then the south where plant diets are
the highest.
Can you explain please?

1) where did you get the figures from?
I think you might have summarised and missed an importantqualifiier.

2) AFAIK, consumption of sugar based sweets in India is extremely high,
hence the boom in diabetics.

[Ron Peterson]

Post by terryc

Post by v***@eater.com
In india with the world's highest rate of diabetes meat consumption is
low.  Also more of those who do consume some meat live in the northern
parts.  The north has less diabetes then the south where plant diets are
the highest.
Can you explain please?

1) where did you get the figures from?
I think you might have summarised and missed an importantqualifiier.

A search will find all sorts of references to the high rate of
diabetes in CVD in India.

Although the Indian population doesn't consume much meat, the
consumption of saturated fats from butter, milk, cream, coconut, and
palm oil is high which causes insulin resistance.

Post by terryc
2) AFAIK, consumption of sugar based sweets in India is extremely high,
hence the boom in diabetics.

Where is the evidence that sugar is more likely to cause diabetes than
other carbohydrates?

--
Ron

[terryc]

Post by Ron Peterson
Where is the evidence that sugar is more likely to cause diabetes than
other carbohydrates?

The number of diabetic clinics in India.

[Ron Peterson]

Post by terryc

Post by Ron Peterson
Where is the evidence that sugar is more likely to cause diabetes than
other carbohydrates?

The number of diabetic clinics in India.

That doesn't show the cause of the diabetes. Dietary studies on
animals indicated that saturated fat is a more likely culprit.

--
Ron

[terryc]

Post by terryc

Post by Ron Peterson
Where is the evidence that sugar is more likely to cause diabetes
than other carbohydrates?

The number of diabetic clinics in India.

That doesn't show the cause of the diabetes. Dietary studies on animals
indicated that saturated fat is a more likely culprit.

for diabetes in animals.

Yes, that would be correct.

Personally, I don't give fart. I've got it and it ain't going
awaydespite all the medical "assistance" being sold..